Thursday, May 31 2007

Episode 39: You Had Me At It Had To Be You There

Show Notes:
Recorded Wednesday, May 30 2007 (10:00 PM - 12:00 AM), at Joe’s Prime Time, Brownstown MI
    “Schmoe and Mickey review You Had To Be There, Mike celebrates a birthday, Scott waits for his burger, Joe asks questions, Greg leaves early, Ashley serves us shots, DJ keeps checking his watch, and Elise tells a joke.

    Breaking news: Mike is changing jobs and might not be able to podcast with us.  Therefore, Schmoe wants to do as many shows as possible before the change; hence, our reviewing You Had To Be There before we were prepared for it.  Need a YHTBT cheat sheet so you can play along?  Try the one at Buffett News’s discography or the one at Buffett World’s.
    Remember when we said how nicely quiet Joe’s Prime Time was last week?  That all changed this week. Evidently Joe installed a few more speakers—in our back room, and also behind us on the deck, blasting out in the empty woods beyond the bar; and when we tried to start podcasting, the noise was deafening.  I have the feeling the speakers might have been newly installed because Joe wasn’t even sure how to disable them.  He ended up forcibly yanking out the speaker wire for us!  (You can hear Joe during the show, quizzing us on tour dates; but most of this was cut.)
    Scott’s missing food order was a Western burger.  He believes it was the added barbecue sauce which threw everyone off.  In the interest of ful disclosure, the neon “Eat at Joe’s” sign was not directly behind Scott, but would be visible through the windows in the doors.  Mike’s birthday shots cost $19, for those keeping score.  We mostly had Cabo Wabo Blanco while Scott asked for Sex on the Beach.
    The “hot girl”, we believe, was Staci Swartzenberg.  [ Hi Staci!  smile  ]    Greg also shared the story of how he tried to impress her back then by doing stunts on his bicycle, but ended up wiping out, on his face.
    One segment that arguably should have been included was when Mike’s observation (of how he got You Had To Be There a year before he ever saw Jimmy live) caused Schmoe to add that his first concert was in 1982.  Scott’s was in 1986.  And I’m fuzzy on my first concert, but I think it was 1984.  I can’t remember if we stated this so explicitly before. 
    One question I’d still like answered.  If Son of a Son of a Sailor came out in March 1978 and You Had to Be There came from the “Cheeseburger in Paradise” tour of Summer 1978, in support of the new album, why is there only one song from SOAOAS on it?  And one thing that struck me was how clean the sound is on CD.  And how quietly attentive the audience is!  I especially like the solo acoustic numbers, where you can actually tell Jimmy is looking down from the way his guitar’s sound-hole picks up his voice.
    For those not up on Internet memes, Schmoe’s “banter banter banter” accompaniment comes from the infamous “Badger Badger Badger” song.  Unaware of the litigation over “God’s Own Drunk”?  The COB,O FAQ has a brief synopsis (19th question down or fifth from the bottom).
    We didn’t get to say much about “Dixie Diner” (one of Greg’s stated favorites, as well as a reported favorite of Mike’s mom), due to everyone being so distracted once Elise arrived.  One point of contention was whether this should be considered an instrumental, considering Fingers’s rhyming intro.  Fingers recorded this for a solo album (1996’s Harpoon Man, I believe); but since that intro was not included there, maybe the Trivia Handbook (mentioned in Episode 29) was correct after all and the track should rightly be considered an instrumental
    Addendum: DJ has a problem with his portrayal in the Show Description.  “The summary is incorrect,” he writes.  “I do not wear a watch (hence I could not be checking it).  I believe I had a mosquito bite on my wrist that was distracting me for some reason???”

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Friday, May 25 2007

Episode 38: Searching for Our Lost Topic of Conversation

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Recorded Wednesday, May 23 2007 (9:30 PM - 11:30 PM), at Joe’s Prime Time, Brownstown MI
    “Discussion of the many covers of Margaritaville, as our second contest ends.

    00:04 - “God’s Juice” refers to water, or in this case ice water.  I am unaware of the derivation of this, but I have a hunch Roger Clyne is involved.  Perhaps someone will enlighten us in the Comments.
    01:36 - my out of season “Feels Like Christmas” is a reference to Muppet Christmas Carol
    02:10 - the guys will probably be ragging on Schmoe’s dinner choices for a while.  Schmoe has decided to sample all the entrees, instead of just sticking with burgers
    02:54 - it was Designated Driver, at RCPM’s Waterin’ Hole discussion board, who has a problem with our Fargo-ish accents link
    03:08 - did Scott just call us whores?
    05:04 - here’s the press release on the Biloxi casino.  My reticence stems from uneasiness that Jimmy might be part of privatizing the post-Katrina coastline, which the New Orleans mayor had warned about.  I was unaware however that this new casino replaces a previous casino at the same location
    05:23 - Buffett News has the transcript of Nadirah’s Time After Island Time interview
    10:04 - you can find our Pirate Speak translation at the right ... or you can click here
    10:20 - I think Greg is confusing pirates and Vikings
    13:02 - in my defense, I couldn’t “read” the Excel file since I don’t have Excel
    14:04 - also in my defense.  Our waitress, Ashley, dropped some change and, because of my lardassitude (and my hernia), it’s a lot easier to kneel to reach the floor than it is stoop over.
    15:15 - oops, I’m repeating myself.  My “Margarineville” joke was already used in Episode 34!
    16:28 - you guys don’t need the story about Greg’s “wireless network”, right?
    18:41 - Scott’s requested Raven Symone link
    20:19 - Schmoe’s eBay woes were first mentioned in Episode 21
    26:16 - Marching Band version.  Why not record your own?
    27:45 - “unshun”, of course, comes from the “Safety Training” episode of The Office
    29:16 - AC/DC’s “Hell’s Bells” provided by Joe’s Prime Time jukebox
    32:10 - Elise was vacationing in Florida, our waitress Tara had already clocked out, and the other waitress, Ashley, flat our refused to be recorded
    32:43 - it’s not over the top; it’s a hymn from St Looney Up the Cream Bun & Jam
    33:38 - Schmoe included some fine print in the script for the oil tycoon: “And did I mention I suck”

Listener Tom provided this information on some of his less recognizable album titles:

    Here’s an explanation to a few you had questions about:
    “Wireless” - This was a show I downloaded off the FTP sites when those were still running. It was from 1999, but that’s all I know about it right now.
    “Raven’s Tailgate” - This is a compilation a fellow Baltimore Raven’s Tailgater put together. It has some catchy tunes on it to get everyone ready for the game.
    “Treasure Box” - This is a compilation of rare tracks put together. It was available from the FTP site and a trading vine on This set is five CDs. It’s 105 rare/unreleased tracks.
    “Buffett Rarieties” - This is another compilation available on FTP. This was also available on the FTP sites and a vine on This is only four CDs. It’s 58 rare/unreleased tracks.
    “Escape to Margaritaville” - Apparently, this is the same CD that was titled “Pitcher Perfect”. This is the promo CD that came out with Margaritaville Tequila. It has “Margaritaville” and “Tequila”. It’s a smaller CD that was attached to the bottle. I posted a picture of it on

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Wednesday, May 23 2007

Mike’s Floridiary

Trip Report
I would like to say that it’s nice to be back, but I would be lying.  The truth is, I wish I didn’t have to leave.  My kids agree.  The wife?  Not so much.  But then, does this surprise anyone?  All around a great trip.  Without a doubt the fastest week in my life.  Here is a rundown, by topic:

The weather
Hot.  Humid.  Great.  Exactly what you would expect.  Only one day with any rain or significant clouds, but that was over in about an hour.  The hot, dry weather was great for us, but the locals really need some rain.  Florida, nearly the whole state, has been very dry and, like many other parts of the country right now, affected by numerous wildfires in nearly every region.  We had heard that the day before we arrived smoke from the fires was obstructing visibility and depositing ash everywhere.  This had mostly cleared out by the time we got there, but there still was some visible haze in the upper atmosphere.  It was gone the next day.

The town
Treasure Island Florida.  Just a bit north of St. Petersburg, right on the Gulf of Mexico.  The town itself is in a sort of transitional state.  Older resorts dating back to the late ‘40s and early ‘50s have been giving way to newer resort condo type developments.  There is a real mixture here.  There were a few sites that looked to be ready for new development—areas where those once quaint old places once stood.  One, right next door to our own, was closed and clearly awaiting the same fate.  Read more here:

The hotel
It was in one of these older places that we stayed.  An old-style 2-story small resort right on the beach.  A nice pool with a recently updated deck area was at the center of the property.  The grounds were well kept and the rooms were clean and well equipped.  Ours was a 1 bedroom unit with a small kitchenette.  Very adequate for us.  This type of place caters mainly to locals who head to the shore on weekends.  This meant we had the place mostly to ourselves for the majority of the week.  Perfect.  There was a McD’s, Walgreen’s, gift shops and a number of bars and restaurants within walking distance.  John’s Pass, a tourist spot was a few minutes away by car or a long walk for the adventurous.

The beach
Top notch.  Wide, long and kept very clean.  The gulf water was warm.  One day it provided waves large enough to body surf and boogie board upon.  My kids were too young to remember surf like this from the time they visited Myrtle Beach a few years back.  They were amazed.  It was a highlight of the trip.

We went to more restaurants than we planned.  It was our original intention to barbecue right there at the resort a few nights to conserve funds.  When we made these plans we forgot about how hot it would be down there and how uncomfortable one might be preparing a meal on a charcoal grill.  The first night we went to an old family favorite: The Friendly Fisherman, right on the boardwalk at John’s Pass.  This place is a ‘can’t miss’ place if you like fresh seafood.  Much of what they serve would have been caught that day.  I had the local grouper dinner.  Fantastic.  Everyone else enjoyed their meals as well.  Another favorite was The Conch Republic in nearby North Redington Beach.  We went there for our Mother’s Day celebration as my mom was there as well as my wife and my sister.  All moms.  This is a Buffetty place for sure.  Buffett music was played constantly.  There were photos on the wall and actually laminated into some of the tables.  The wait staff claimed that Jimmy himself had been there more than once.  I liked it so much I bought a t-shirt.  The Floridian was a little Cuban sandwich joint right off the Treasure Island causeway.  I never had a Cuban sandwich before, but heard good things.  Rightfully so.  It was great.  We enjoyed ours right outside the place in a covered deck area.  2 for 1 beers that day too.  What’s not to like?  Also had dinner at Dan Marino’s in St. Petersburg.  Nice place in the newer Baywalk district.  The food was great there.  The whole crew seemed to agree.

The nightlife
Ordinarily, my vacations are spent with my own family or away from civilization.  This time, my brother Jim was with us.  Jim, being a musician himself, was interested in checking out local live entertainment at every chance.  He is also a night-owl who wakes up late and stays out later.  I made an attempt to keep up with him on a few occasions.  One of the first places we went to was called Ricky T’s right there on Gulf Blvd.  Jim had gone there for lunch earlier in the day that day we arrived and had heard there was a good live band scheduled for that evening.  I joined him to check them out.  The band was called Shark Attack.  I didn’t know what to expect.  They might have been a Buffett cover band or some other beach-music type band that is popular in the area.  But no.  These guys were mainly focused on blues and classic rock.  They were great.  3 excellent guitarists.  In one band.  Including the bassist and drummer, this was a 5 piece band in a tiny corner of the fairly small bar.  It was interesting to get my brother’s perspective on the band since he is in the same business.  Jim too, was very impressed.  Especially with their original stuff.  One tune in particular—the closer that night—was penned by guitarist/vocalist Kirk Adams ( ).  The song is called (I think) “Mexican Wrestler”.  What a great tune.  It rocked and was funny too.  I’m working on getting a copy of the song.  Kirk told me that he might have a live recording of the song somewhere.

This is truly Margaritaville around these parts.  Nearly every gift store and restaurant had Buffett music playing.  One evening, we took a dolphin watch cruise (free beer on the 7pm sunset edition) from Hubbard’s.  Buffett tunes were the backdrop of the trip.  The cruise departed from a pier at John’s Pass and traveled along the intracoastal waterway there.  Dolphins are prevalent in the area, but we only saw one then.  We did see numerous million-dollar estates along the water, many with very expensive looking large boats moored behind.  Where do these people get their money?  One place was owned by the family that founded Brach’s candy company.  ...I guess that‘s what you have to do to get that kind of money.  Anyway, the cruise continued out into the gulf where we finally did see a number of dolphins up close.  We have some video clips to prove it.  The free beer continued to flow and the Buffett tunes continued to play throughout.  In all, it was a lovely cruise.

Golf.  Twice.  Once was a course called The Tides.  My brother-in-law and I played 18 holes there.  It was a nicely laid out course.  Considering the dry weather they had been having in the area, I was surprised it was in as good shape as it was.  The greens, however, were kind of rough.  White sand could be seen between the somewhat long blades of grass.  This made putting a challenge.  Fast at first, but then the ball seemed to hit the brakes.  Strange.  When your ball would land on the green, you would see a spray of sand - this is how sandy the surface was.  The other golf outing was on a little par 3 course at the Treasure Island Golf and Tennis Club.  Very small.  9 holes - you play twice around for your 18.  A number of the greens were being refinished so you had to play to temporary greens fashioned in the fairways in front of the real ones.  They should have mentioned this before we paid, I think.  Still it was nice there and my son Brian joined us this time.
Oddly enough we happened to see more dolphins in the waters surrounding the course than we did on the dolphin cruise we took earlier in the week.

Other highlights
There is a Sloppy Joe’s restaurant and bar inside the Bilmar Hotel on Gulf Blvd.  I walked in from the beach entrance one night, but they were closing.  It was only 11pm, but that was on a Tuesday I believe.  Not much going on mid-week.  My sister and her family went there for dinner.  Mixed reviews.
We attended a Tampa Bay Devil Rays game on the Friday evening of that week.  They played in intrastate rivalry against the Marlins.  TB lost.  We saw the Marlins hit a grand slam in the first inning.  We also saw a Carlos Pena home run hit off the lights in straight away center field.  Did I mention that this was an indoor stadium.  Tropicana Field.  Much more laid back atmosphere than the Detroit Tigers games we are used to.  Fun to watch a game in another venue.  We left the game early to join the rest of the clan to see a movie in the Baywalk district nearby.  Shrek the Third.  Not good.  Even my kids complained about this.  Andrew too.

I finally tried some Landshark Lager.  It is about what I expected.  It is not a hoppy, full-bodied beer.  It is a light lager.  I think, intended to be enjoyed ice cold on a hot day.  At least that’s the way I enjoyed it.  Most places automatically serve it with a lime wedge like Corona.  In fact, it appears to be the American equivalent.  This is a non-offensive, middle-of-the-road beer.  Enjoy it as such.

Had the opportunity to sample a new hard iced-tea product from Smirnoff at a Publix supermarket in Madiera Beach.  I was originally drawn near by the attractive blonde working the table, but was interested to try a new tea product.  I had low expectations based on experiences with other competitors to my favorite, Twisted Tea, but I was very impressed.  There are 2 varieties:  Green Tea or regular with lemon.  I liked both, but the green tea was most enjoyable.  I bought some.  It is light and very tea-like.  Smooth.  No carbonation.  I think we have a winner.  You must try this in a large glass over massive amounts of ice.  Just try not to pound this drink.  I dare you.  I got a free t-shirt from the hot blonde.  My brother got carded by her just to try the sample despite the fact that he might be at least 15 years older than her.  At least.  This made his day.

I’ve been composing the above bit by bit over the last few days.  I’m sure I’m missing some things, but I figure this is enough for now.  I can bore you with more later.

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Tuesday, May 8 2007

Episode 37: The Roger Clyne Interview

Show Notes:
Recorded Sunday, May 6 2007 (5:00 PM - 9:00 PM), at Casa de Mike, Canton MI
    “Attack of the Clyne podcast!  It’s trying to completely take over our Jimmy Buffett talk!  ...Thanks to all who helped set up the interview and thanks to Roger for being part of our show and for two great concerts.

    Show opening recorded Thursday, May 3 2007 at Ferndale’s Magic Bag theater, using the same gear with which we record our podcast.
    For those keeping score, here’s Roger’s setlist for that night

Hello New Day
Bury My Heart at the Trailer Park
Maybe We Should Fall in Love
Tell Yer Momma
World Ain’t Gone Crazy
I Don’t Need Another Thrill
Wake Up Call
Leaky Little Boat
Junebug in July
Bottom of the Bay
Jack vs José
King of the Hill Theme
Noisy Head
Goon Squad
Green and Dumb
Down Together

    Mike and Schmoe and Scott had a busy weekend, heading off to Chicago the following day for another RCPM show; and then, recording the phone interview on Sunday.
    It was Mike who got the ball rolling regarding the interview.  He contacted Patrick Steven Patterson at Lotus, back at the beginning of April, and was able to negotiate a twenty-minute phone interview.  We had hoped to use the interview to promote Roger’s local appearance, but it didn’t work out in time.  Mike happened to meet Roger before the concert (despite what I say in the post-show gabfest), bumping into him outside the rear of Magic Bag.  Mike, once again wearing his classic “The Peacemakers” t-shirt (as seen here, from the previous year), introduced himself and we were delighted to hear Roger was not only aware of the upcoming interview but even remembered the time (4 PM CDT).  He told us he’d be calling from the back of his tour bus, between his Minneapolis and Des Moines appearances.
    So that we could all participate, we used a phone service called Free  This isn’t necessarily an endorsement since the results did not sound all that great.  Using individual phones backfired on us, since a lot of echo and crosstalk got picked up.  I also dialed in using Skype, and got better results that way; and the finished product is a blend between both recordings (plus plenty of tweaks and filters).
    Learn more about Circus Mexicus here.  (The name Schmoe was trying to say is “Puerto Peñasco”.)  And learn more about RCPM’s No More Beautiful World CD here.  Scott’s songwriting question refers specifically to the title track from Honky Tonk Union and “Switchblade” from ¡Americano!.  You can see the RCPM tour bus in our photo gallery.  And as long as you’re looking up RCPM CDs, here’s the link for Sonoran Hope and Madness, originally released by Margaritaville Records.  You can try meeting Roger at 3 Margaritas.  And this is the Mexican Moonshine website, but there’s not much there yet.
    Not surprisingly, the other live track, “Lemons”, also stems from the May 3 show.  You can hear Mike and Scott cheering at the beginning, over their upcoming Chicago show.  Shurman was the opening act, and you can go to their website or visit them at MySpace.  The performance here is heavily edited, for time reasons.  (There’s also a performance of it in Episode 33.

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Episode 37B: Special Features Bonus Disc

Show Notes:
Recorded Sunday, May 6 2007 (5:00 PM - 9:00 PM), at Casa de Mike, Canton MI
    “The Roger Clyne Podcast Strikes Back, as the boys present some deleted scenes from Episode 37.

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Thursday, May 3 2007

Episode 36: Ready for Prime Time

Show Notes:
Recorded Wednesday, May 2 2007 (10:00 PM - 11:00 PM), at Joe’s Prime Time, Brownstown MI
    “We celebrate our first year anniversary by going back where we started: Big Al’s, now known as Joe’s Prime Time. Greg and Laurie join us to take a look at the start of the Bama Breeze tour and to announce our new contest. Special guests: Elise, DJ, and Joe himself.

    Happy First Anniversary to Us!  I couldn’t resist bringing out the old theme songs for the occasion.  You could also consider this our first episode of Season 3.  And it’s also our return to Big Al’s in Brownstown, now that golf season has resumed.
    Big Al’s is now Joe’s PrimeTime.  We did a site recce the week before, wondering if the back room had been renovated, like the new owner had planned.  We were a bit dismayed to find how loud the place was, and we wondered if we might have to find a new venue at which to record.  Fortunately, things were much calmer and cooler tonight.
    02:18 - yes Gregular (aka Oops) is back.  His mention of “bikers” is because every month our back room is stolen from us by a big group of scary and intimidating bikers, on the first Wednesday of the month.  It coincided with our attempts to record tonight, too, but fortunately they vacated the back room by the time we were ready to record.  Greg’s least popular Top Ten list was back in Episode 12 and the news about his house was in Episode 9
    04:58 - Jimmy gave shoutouts to Schmoe and me, but I forgot the shoutout to Scott.  He sang “If I Had a Boat” (at the 4/28 Dallas show) just because Scott ragged on Lyle Lovett in the last episode. 
    07:35 - we talked all about that during last week’s site recce, which, despite the music blasting through the bar, Scott apparently thought was being recorded for a show
    10:23 - just a couple days after Mike mentions the Cheeseburger in Paradise restaurants, there’s news the chain might be closing.  Could this be the fifth shoutout?
    13:16 - every time Scott mentions Heather I think he’s talking about Heather Dee Perry.  But really he’s talking about Heather’s music blog
    13:18 - you might not be able to hear it, but Greg mentions how he’d been on a flight with the Beach Boys.  They’d been in First Class, but they graciously came back to greet passengers and sign autographs.
    13:45 - Schmoe and I were too superstitious to say anything about the upcoming interview; but it’s safe to say, now, that the interview in question is in Episode 37
    14:47 - here’s BuffettNews’s information on Jimmy’s June 8th Paris show
    15:34 - I first learned of Mike’s uncharacteristic abhorrence of all things Amish back during our Caseville road trip.  Ask him about it.  It’s an eye-opener.  And it’s difficult to answer Greg’s question since stats on Amish Internet usage are very hard to find.  I think they use a proxy or something.
    16:08 - I was miffed when Elise brought me a Bud, but the recording clearly reveals I asked for a Bud and not a Bud Light.  My mistake.
    17:04 - Heidi’s appendix scar photo can be found at the FSGL photo gallery [seventh picture down]
    17:31 - am I the only one hearing everyone say “euphenism” instead of “euphemism”?
    23:03 - why do I suddenly sound Canadian?  I think it must be pirate residue
    24:22 - I forgot all about that Margaritaville Tequila promo CD until Schmoe mentioned it.  Later that night, while editing the recording, I impulsiely gave eBay anothet shot.  I’d been unable to get the CD when it first came out, but got to snap up a copy quite easily now.  Schmoe got one too, the following day—despite his personal boycott against eBay (as discussed in Episode 21).  But, thank you to Listeners Tom and Josh for offering to help out
    25:12 - did Laurie just say “a cherry between my bosoms”?!   Yes, she did.

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